Chinook Plus 2 - Paint and Covering Questions...


1. Where can I get the center and side wraps in a different colour other than white? 11. Do all the fabric overlaps need finishing tape to protect them and seal the joint?
2. How do I take all the paint off before I patch? 12. How do I get the glue on the ribs to stick to the fabric?
3. How do I prevent a rip from getting bigger? How do I fix a rip? 13.  How do I fix the edges of my trim tape where the pinked edges are loose without damaging the ceconite?
4. How do I correct some pinholes in the paint finish?  14. How do you suggest I do the fabric covering around the filler neck on the in-wing tank?
5. What is the best way to spray the primer on? 15. Are there any adverse affects with using the fabric glue between temperatures of 7° to 15°C?
6. What equipment can you suggest I use when applying my paint?  16. What suggestions can you give me for prepping my wings for gluing the fabric on? 
7. How big should my tank and compressor be?  17. What kind of glue would you suggest I use for joining the tank filler necks?
8. Will a hvlp gun work to apply the polyurethane paint?  18. What kind of thinner do I use to clean the metal before I glue? 
9. Can you give me any tips or hints on applying my decals? 19. Do I have to wait for the glue to dry before I can glue on the finishing tape?
10. How much paint do I need if I want to paint stripes on the tail and wings?  20. What prep work needs to be done if I want to paint the inside of the tubing on the frame? 

1. Where can I get the center and side wraps in a different colour other than white?
We make the wraps in house, and you can paint them very easily any colour you want when you paint your airplane. The center wrap material we receive all comes in a white fabric. Customers either leave it white or paint it when they paint their aircraft.
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2. How do I take all the paint off before I patch? 
The first thing is to sand it down so that the paint is not shiny anymore. Use a 240 grit sand paper so that the glue will have something to bite to. Put a layer of glue down first then place your patch over and again glue down. Let it dry well, then prime and pain. The process is not difficult but it takes a bit of patience to do it right.
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3. How do I prevent a rip from getting bigger? How do I fix a rip?
This can be fixed quite easily by using a hot knife to melt both ends of the rip so that it will not go any further. Then you can put a piece of trim tape to further prevent it from tearing. We only recommend this on small rips, larger ones may require the fabric to be replaced.
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4. How do I correct some pinholes in the paint finish? 
This was most likely caused because the paint was too thick on the first application. If the12-24 hour window for a second coat has passed, it will be necessary to sand the surface before applying another topcoat. Use a little more thinner in the paint when you paint and this should prevent the pinholes from reappearing.
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5. What is the best way to spray the primer on?
Spraying the primer on may take three coats to seal all of pinholes in the fabric. The first coat is light and must be thinned out lots (50/50). Let this coat flash off a little longer so that all the thinner can evaporate and on the second coat you will not get solvent popping.
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6. What equipment can you suggest I use when applying my paint?
Here are some suggestions from the Endura literature: 

Conventional spray
devilbiss: JGA or MBC spray gun (#31, 43 or 80 air cap) .070 AV 650 EX fluid tip
Binks: BBR AP-19 or AP21 air cap, AO47 fluid tip

Conventional pressure pot
Devilbiss: JGA or MBC (# 43 air cap) AV 650 EX will produce low over spray and low atomization for frames. when using a pressure pot and a high amount of atomization is desired use a 797 air cap and an AV 650 FX fluid tip.
Binks BBR AP-19 or AP-21 air cap, AO47 fluid tip.

Air pressure: cup gun (siphon feed) 310-345 kPa (45-50 psi) at gun.
Pressure pot 103-172 kpa (10-20 psi) at the pot
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7. How big should my tank and compressor be?
This depends on what gun you decide to use. Find out what the CFM (cubic feet per minute) the gun needs to work properly. Some pressure pot guns need a higher CFM to work well. 

You will also get a drop in CFM if you use a small diameter hose. We suggest a 1/2" diameter hose.

You should use a small pressure gauge on your gun not on the wall then hook up lets say a fifty foot hose. I found that by the time the air got to my gun I had only 20 to 30 psi at the gun when the wall gauge was reading 55.

To assist in uniformity of finish with metallics cross coating at a slightly higher pressure (55-60 psi increase) is recommended.
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8. Will a hvlp gun work to apply the polyurethane paint?
The hvlp gun will probably work but first talk to someone that uses this type of gun. We suggest contacting an auto body shop and ask them if it will work with a polyurethane paint. 

Endura paint is a polyurethane. Endura suggests some guns may give an orange peel effect when spraying a polyurethane even though they say they will spray enamels. Using an hvlp gun is different than a conventional gun. The speed at which you make your passes across whatever you are painting is slower and the atomization of the paint is in larger droplets. 

If you need more info you can also call Endura at 1-800-661-9930
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9. Can you give me any tips or hints on applying my decals?
Start with a straight edge and lay down a whole side to keep things straight. As long as you haven’t applied too much pressure, you may be able to reposition the decal. Using a spray bottle filled with water, will allows you to move the decal if necessary. Use only a bit of water, as too much water will cause bubbles under the decal.
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10.  How much paint do I need if I want to paint stripes on the tail and wings?
This will ultimately depend on the size of the stripes. We will supply you with two litres of “A” and two litres of “B” and this will cover half of the wing and the tail surface area. If you have a certain pattern in mind and let us know, we can give you more specific recommendations but generally the ½ gallon of A and ½ gallon of B gives you plenty of paint to do a secondary color.
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11. Do all the fabric overlaps need finishing tape to protect them and seal the joint?
Yes, all the fabric overlaps need finishing tape to protect them and seal the joints. See the attached picture that shows how to place a patch around the undercarriage and the down tube where the side cabin fabric comes in contact. Our covering video demonstrates this application. -
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12. How do I get the glue on the ribs to stick to the fabric?
Heating the glue makes it bond to the rib better. Heat the glue well with you iron and push on the fabric a little bit on the side of the rib to get some more surface to hold down. Make sure your ribs are clean and clear of any debris. It is important to have a good bonding surface. Again the Covering video provided with your kit will detail this further. -
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13.  How do I fix the edges of my trim tape where the pinked edges are loose without damaging the ceconite?
You should be able to reglue the tape back down. Use heat on the glue after it is dry to make a better bond.
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14. How do you suggest I do the fabric covering around the filler neck on the in-wing tank?
Our suggestion is to cut it out of the fabric and then put a piece of trim tape around and leave it like that. In the event you have a leaking tank the trim tape can be pulled off. Remember the fabric scallops in between each wing rib section and make sure the edges are taped off!
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15. How do you suggest I do the fabric covering around the filler neck on the in-wing tank?
Our suggestion is to cut it out of the fabric and then put a piece of trim tape around and leave it like that. In the event you have a leaking tank the trim tape can be pulled off. Remember the fabric scallops in between each wing rib section and make sure the edges are taped off!
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16. What suggestions can you give me for prepping my wings for gluing the fabric on?
Most importantly, make sure your glue has not frozen. Any AL tube you are gluing must be clean and only clean what you are going to cover that day. To ensure it is clean, rub a white rag over it. Use a thinner to wipe it down and then glue.

Do not clean every component and then two days later glue and cover it. 

Make sure you have prepped the wing ribs and have glue on each of the raw wing ribs. When your wing is all covered and the final heat shrink is done, then you apply the glue through the fabric to the glue on the wing rib. 
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17. What kind of glue would you suggest I use for joining the tank filler necks? 
Any glue that fuel will not affect. A good 2-part epoxy is fine as well as sealant.
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18. What kind of thinner do I use to clean the metal before I glue?
Use the thinner that you are using for painting. The whole idea about cleaning is to get that initial layer of oxidized AL off. You don’t want to be laying glue over a layer of something or any contamination. Make sure the metal is dry before gluing.
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19. Do I have to wait for the glue to dry before I can glue on the finishing tape? 
You have to let the glue dry before putting on the finishing tape. The finishing tape is put on after shrinking of the fabric. Depending on heat and temperature you may be able to do this within 6-8 hours.
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20. What prep work needs to be done if I want to paint the inside of the tubing on the frame?
You need to do some prep work on the tube even before you put the covering on the body and the fin. Once the frame is all built, clean all of the tubes at once. First, use an aluminum cleaner. Use this cleaner (it is an acid so put gloves and safety glasses on) with a scotch brite pad and scrub the tube down. Rinse the cleaner off with water and make sure the cleaner does not dry on the tube before you rinse. After you rinse the cleaner off, put alodine 1200s on the tube. Rub the alodine on with a soaked cloth (no scotch brite pad) and then rinse with water. Again, do not let the alodine dry before you rinse. Your tubes will now have a copper tinge to them and this means the primmer will adhere to the tubes. Blow all of the excess water out of the tubes and brackets and let them dry before you cover the body and fin. If you follow these steps and keep them clean before you paint, then you will have no problems later on with the paint peeling off of your tubes.
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Well, we hope that we have clarified a few of your questions. If you do require additional assistance, we would be very happy to hear from you with your questions, comments or concerns.

 

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